SSN23 Jimmy Carter

The Navy is commisioning the Seawolf Attack Sub Jimmy Carter.

Interesting factoid: Jimmy Carter served on the first of the Seawolf class when he was in the Navy, now the last of the class is named for him.

Oops... Sorry about that. Unclosed quote in a tag :/

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RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

This seems to be falling into the teaser category. More to follow?

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

Interesting factoid...

I doubt it. There have been only 3 submarines in the Seawolf class. The first one (SSN 21 - USS Seawolf) was commissioned in 1997. Carter served in the mid-to-late '40s, before the era of nuclear submarine propulsion, and definately before the era of bad-ass supersubs like Seawolf, Ohio, and Virginia class.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

Oops, you are right. The actual factoid I was looking for was "Nuclear Attack Sub" not Seawolf class.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

From talking to some ex-submariners at work, the Seawolf was (is) really an amazing sub. They put so much engineering in it to counter the Soviets, and by the time they finished designing the thing and started building it, the Soviet Union collapsed. All of a sudden it became hard to justify paying for such a beast, which is probably why only 3 were ever built.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

Sweet... I've always been under the impression Carter served on nuclear subs. Andy is not disputing that correct?

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

I think his schooling was in nuclear engineering though, right? So served on a sub, nuclear engineer, makes sense.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

And, that is 'nu-ku-ler'. 'nu-ku-ler'.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

I don't think he was an engineer on the sub. He was in command school at the naval academy and majored in (flunked out of) Chemistry at GaTech after he got out.

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RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

Err.. I guess he did his time at GaTech before the Naval Academy.. Wikipedia says:

His younger brother, Billy Carter (1937-1988), caused some political problems for him during his administration. His younger sister Ruth Carter Stapleton (1929-1983) became a well known Christian evangelist. Carter's sister Gloria Carter Spann (1926-1990) was low-key and was famous for collecting and riding Harley Davidson motorcycles. He grew up in nearby Archery. He attended Georgia Southwestern College and the Georgia Institute of Technology, and received a B.S. degree from the United States Naval Academy in 1946, the same year he married Rosalynn Smith. Carter was a very gifted student and finished 59th out of his Academy class of 820. Vietnam POW and war hero Jeremiah Denton was one of Carter's classmates.

Carter served on submarines in the Atlantic and Pacific fleets, and was later selected by Admiral Hyman Rickover for the U.S. Navy's nuclear submarine program. Carter loved the Navy and planned to make it his career. His ultimate goal was to be Chief of Naval Operations. Upon the death of his father in 1953, however, he resigned from the Navy and established a peanut farming business in Plains where he was involved in a farming accident which left him with a permanently bent finger. From a young age, Carter showed a deep commitment to Christianity, serving as a Sunday School teacher throughout his political career.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

Andy word from Rothbard about all this, he served on a very special "nucular" sub and was a nuke engineer (I think). Roth?

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

Yea, I made a mistake too. I thought he served before the nuclear age, but from what Cooper posted he was around for the first nuke sub.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

What's this become some right wing conspiracy site? All of these postings containing bogus info on Jimmy Carter. I was thinking when I first saw this post that the Bush group must be sick they have to commission a world class boat named after a Democrat – and what do I see… post after post seems filled with disinformation. Coincidence??
FWIW I've always been a huge fan of Carter. I think he is a good example of how a decent man will never make a good President. I just finished reading his last book The Hornet’s Nest about the Revolutionary War from the southern states perspective. Interesting Read.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

A HA! I knew I didn't screw that up...

Carter's second submarine commission was on the USS Seawolf, not the Seawolf class :P

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

Carter is a scumbag, his presidency was a shambles, and he doesn't deserve to have a trash barge named after him

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

USS Seawolf SSN575 was the boat that was in commission when Carter was in the navy. Carter wasn't a scumbag, he just didn't have a clue when it came to dealing with all of the lowlifes in the world. Oh,by the way, I am not a Carter lover.

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

Mr. Carter served for ten years on Active Duty, but not much of it was spent in submarines. Most of his career was spent going to Schools or teaching. He entered the Naval Academy in 1943, and graduated in 1947. He was assigned to the ancient battleship WYOMING, then a training ship. When it was decomissioned, he went to another old battleship, the USS MISSISSIPPI, coverted to a Guided Missile test ship. (He was the ship's Education Officer, helping sailors get high school equivalency diplomas and study for promotion exams.)

From there he volunteered for the submarine force, which began with
six months of training. Then he made one cruise on the diesel engined
sub USS POMFRET, before it too, was assigned to training duties. He
then went to the pre-Commissioning detail for the USS K-1. This was a
unsuccesful class of diesel engined coastal submarines. He did, however, pass the Submarine Commander course.

From there he was accepted to the US Navy's new Nuclear Power Program, under ADM Hyman Rickover. Carter was then assigned to study Nuclear Reactor and Propulsion Engineering. His next assignment was set up a training course for enlisted men going to the second US Navy nuclear sub, the unsuccessful USS SEAWOLF (SSN 573). But then his father died and he requested permission to return to Plains, GA, to run the family
business. He received an Honorable Discharge in 1953.

Incidently submarines named SEAWOLF have had a chequered history. The
first was wrecked after a fire off the California coast in 1920, with the death of her Captain and three sailors. The second SEAWOLF served well in WW 2, only to be sunk by US anti-submarine forces in the Pacific in 1944.(One of two US subs lost to friendly forces in WW2, the Army Air Forces got the other one in the Atlantic.) The third, the nuclear one, never really worked out, she was kind of an Edsel of a submarine. The fourth is the lead ship of the newest class of attack subs, of which CARTER is the third and last.

Carter\'s Duty Station Settled

Carter was indeed on my old boat: The USS Seawolf (SSN 575) and served as the MPA (Main Propulsion Assistant. The Wolf made enough of a contribution during the Cold war that the Navy named an entire class (yikes, 3 boats!) after it. Noteworthy in an era when submarines aren\'t named after fish (or older, famous boats) but rather cities or states (where influencial congressman who vote appropriations hail from.)

RE: SSN23 Jimmy Carter

According to the word aboard the boat Carter served her. The boat equalled the number of surfaces to dives in troubled times. In the last third of the century just past this old lady became very important to the existance of a lot of these Poindexters throwing rocks at a great little feeder. Seawolf, unlike the boats of today had a big ocean full of Soviet Alpha boats that really wanted to slug it out.

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